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Wednesday, July 20, 2011

23 comments:

Devika Jyothi said...

Oh! Living on pills - the very thought terrifies me; though i have lived through it once,

But yes, it's all in the mind, finally...and human mind is no simple thing, while simplifying things is its job, by nature it's a very complex thing! and most of all no two minds are identical in the way they work, the way they thinks -- despite that there's coincidence of thoughts -- mystery indeed :)

very evocative and effective photo for the words, Lorraine :)

love,
dev

Devika Jyothi said...

Oh yes, forgot...i guess metaphysics has some answers for the mystery of mind -- but i seem to lose my mind when i go into it! so much, so good :)

dev

Devika Jyothi said...

and, Lorraine -- i think, emotional quotient is far more important than intelligence quotient in life -- though we have our breaking points, it is always better not to choke yourself....be healthy, be happy, be the way you are...we need you as you :)

love,
dev

Lorraine said...

well getting a little pharmaceutical, I will say that those who go through 6 weeks of horrifying withdrawal symptoms that are hardly sing off their nose should be on medecine, those whose withdrawals are worse then anything they've ever felt should never have been put on medication in the first place....I'm the former not the latter my nervous system is shot...finished

Devika Jyothi said...

yes, medication is the last option...but even without me being aware, i've been through it - of medicines i know nothing...except that mine was Ayurvedic mostly, and hence no greater harm was done to the nervous system,

but again Lorraine....nervous system is shot/finished is the way you feel temporarily...because when again you get back to the normal interactions of life; you come to know you are not a rock; though we might well know when and where to be one and when not to be one -- don't you agree?

dev

Lorraine said...

Well I've lived the first 42 years to the best of my strength always seeking the light, seeking nature the sun natural remedies, meditation, exercise.....so I lasted 42 years before I broke, I did the best I could...but see I made a deal with God (I know we're not allowed, I don't care, I made it anyway, I thought it was fair)...I told God that this sickness I had was either going to make me stronger or would kill me...that was the deal..never happened I just got weaker and weaker and weaked until I might as well have been dead. I got up eventually had a 3year with my dr...refusing the drugs...he didn't like my using that word, he said it was medicine NOT drugs...and since I really did try everything natural that existed on this earth...I'm afraid that I no longer believe natural products are better, natural products just kept me in hell for 42 years...I've died everyday....for ever....I've done everything I could and I broke and I am proud to say that I've made a little progress...Now Dev, you tell me what I could have done differently

Devika Jyothi said...

i have come across such cases Lorraine and i know its terrible and horrible --

But i can tell you Ayurveda is not just a natural product or remedy -- it's a holistic approach and it took me about two years in absolute isolation with just my family members allowed to see me...it is about everthing - there is a hell lot of medicinical application external and internal, then what you eat, how long you sleep (i slept for days together), modalities about bathing, what you reading (though only at a later stage it was allowed, coffee drinking was absolute cut off -- and many more things of spiritual practice,

and believe me i was out of it thoroughly after two years and was back in office; fit and proper...then on, i don't take allopathic meicines, even for fever...it worked with me, it worked for some others i know,

though i practice kind of a mind emptying process, sometimes it's terrifying...then i go and sleep,

said all that...to see if it could help...Usage of Ayurveda systems abroad -- i am not sure...many people come here; hope something works for you and you aren't troubled Lorraine :)

love,
dev

Devika Jyothi said...

Aah! you said 42 years ...i was hit when i was 23-24 - at my prime age - parents were too troubled looking for a groom for me; but i must say i owe it to my husband now if i remain normal now...though both of us have doubts about that! :))

dev

Brian Miller said...

mystery is what life is all about sounds like devika has some interesting ideas...

Devika Jyothi said...

hahaha! Brian you made me laugh...it was all part of the Ayurvedic system i had to follow -- not my invention! :)

dev

Lorraine said...

Do you two Brilliant Souls (and I mean that - no sarcasm intended) know the definition of agoraphobia..

Devika Jyothi said...

i don't know much about that...but i know Anxiety is the dizziness of freedom. :)

Relax and be calm and cool, Lorraine -- you are JUST fine :)

love, you loads
dev

Devika Jyothi said...

truly i mean it Lorraine...sometimes mind works out grotesque things...when there is really nothing of that sort out there...You got to pacify your mind...it's afterall yours and you got to know to care of it...rest we are all here to share your/our phobias :)

i got a phobia for darkness and snakes - any help? :))

love
dev

Brian Miller said...

i do know the meaning of it...dont know much on the treatment of it or how to overcome it though...

Devika Jyothi said...

Lorraine, again, i hope my trying to bring lightness to it is not seen as seeing your problem to be little...

to a good extent i know, what it means to live through it...BUT, mind can be controlled, pacified and held by us, rather than mind playing with us -- it perhaps is the fear of the unknown and we know we face it quite well, and are capable of it...we got to pacify the mind, above all medications,

love,
dev

Timoteo said...

I love you both. (Oh, and Brian too!) Hope that helps.

Margie said...

Lorraine, you take care of your beautiful being in the way that is best for you!
I'm proud to be your friend! xxx

Lorraine said...

Nope I wouldn't wish a phobia on my friends, but thanks Dev lol

You don't, not me I mean I've lived it, totallyignoring it for 42 years, until my body shut down, but I'm better now, but there's no cure for that, I just have a couple of question for the man upstairs...lol

although some things have happened when I was toddler, Dev I blame it on a previous life :)

It does Tim :)

andyou Margie, are an angel x

Devika Jyothi said...

:)

dev

....peter said...

You are a mystery Lorraine....that is what i like about you....and your photos and of course your Words that Flow and Stuff:)....peter:)

Lorraine said...

The mystery is how in nthe World God ever decided to make a photographer an agoraphobic, I mean you have to appreciate the irony, alas I'm also a writer so maybe that's what He really wants me to do...;)

HOBBY said...

Excellent photo! My compliments, Lorraine!

firebird said...

Lorraine and Devika--your stories are ones of great courage and faith--I applaud you both--

Agoraphobia is a fear of situations involving large spaces with crowds, or public situations, that makes one afraid to leave the house. I have had anxiety in public places most of my life, and had to slowly learn to be less anxious.